Vatican: Priests ‘Not Responsible’ If They Rape Children

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Vatican says priests are not responsible if they rape young kids

A senior Vatican Bishop has claimed that priests who rape children should not be held responsible for their actions

According to New York Catholic Bishop, Robert Cunningham, NY priests who have been caught raping children aged 7 and over are being wrongly accused because “children know what they’re doing, so it isn’t rape.”

The sickening statements were made in his testimony from a deposition for a federal lawsuit, in which Catholic priests are being criminally prosecuted for  decades of child abuse.

Countercurrentnews.com reports: According to Cunningham, the “age of reason” in the Catholic church is seven, so those boys are culpable for their actions.

The shocking statement came during testimony that was recently released from a deposition for a federal lawsuit. Charles Bailey, a survivor of a priest’s abuse, asked then-Bishop James Moynihan whether the church held children victims partly responsible for sexual abuse from priests . “(Bishop) Moynihan said that right to my face – ‘The age of reason is 7, so if you’re at least 7 you’re culpable for your actions.’ That kind of floored me,” said Bailey.

Obviously, the sentiment isn’t something one Bishop believes, but a broader excuse used to cover for the guilt of sexual predators.

The “age of reason” may be seven years old, but that in no way makes it the “age it’s the kid’s fault he was raped.” According to church doctrine, seven is the age a child should understand the difference between right and wrong. It’s also the age a child is eligible for communion.

A spokesman for the diocese has been trying to defend the bishop, saying that his statements in a deposition don’t mean he believes children are responsible for being raped and that it was “unfair to use the deposition to characterize his position otherwise.”

“Unfair may not quite cut it where this man is concerned. When pressed on the issue, he said it wasn’t his place to know how much guilt was on the victim’s hands. The simple answer, “none,” became another distorted version of reality that somehow makes it at least partially a child’s fault when a priest abuses him.

“Well, I mean, without knowing the circumstances completely, did the boy encourage, go along with (it) in any way?” Cunningham asked. The lawyer asked Cunningham if he could imagine any circumstance in which a 14- or 15-year-old boy could be held responsible in the eyes of the church when a priest asks him to engage in sex.

“Obviously, what the priest did was wrong,” Cunningham said. “You’re asking me if the young man had any culpability, and I can’t judge that.”

Actually, you can judge that. Anyone can judge that. What happened is priests used their influence and position as “messengers of God” to force children to comply with their perverted sexual desires. In the very least they were forced to make adult decisions they didn’t have the capacity to make. This bishop and all the priests he defended with this mindless argument betrayed the trust of the parishioners and especially the children of the Diocese of Syracuse.

Charles Bailey has circulated a petition he intends to present to Pope Francis in Philadelphia during his visit to remove Bishop Cunningham as the head of the church there.




146 Comments

  1. It amazes me that after two thousand years of evidence of pedophile priest, parents still provide them with their children to be used as sex toys.

    • Two thousand years of evidence? Cite your source for that one creampuff.

      If you only had a brain. The frequency that this happens is INFINITESIMALLY small. But don’t let the facts stand in the way of your idiotic and utterly unfounded comments.

      • If i could package your BS, i would put it in my compost pile. Your ignorance, real or pretend, is supporting pedophiles. That makes you VERY suspect.

        • I did no such thing SFB, but you still did not answer my question. What is your source that this has been going on for 2 thousand years? The only BS I see here has your fingerprints all over it.

          • I don’t have to site anything. If you are truly ignorant, that is your parents fault until you came of age, them it is your fault. If you are playing stupid, play on. The p[ope don’t stop priest raping children, because he is a priest, with dirty hands. The whole of the Vatican is a crime cabal which steals from the poor, runs drugs, launders drug profits through their banks, produces pronography. If you are defending such evil, that makes you purposely evil, or regrettably massively stupid.

          • You call me ignorant and you spell cite, “site”? And my parents were both very well educated, my father was an MD and my mother an ARNP. I have a MS in Clinical Microbiology and a MS in Public Health. I am quite confident I am far better educated than you are or ever will be. I loathe and despise any Priest who would molest a child. He has failed his parish, his faith and God. An as a lifelong Catholic I have seen 6 Pontiffs in my 59 years on this planet and I find they current “pope” to be a HERETIC.

            It is painfully obvious to me that you are not a Catholic as your knowledge of Catholicism is about as expansive as your ability to spell. Stop wasting my time. And YES, if you make a bold and totally unsubstantiated claim like you made you better damn well have a citation for it because I will for damn sure hold you to it. The fact that you will not provide it is proof positive that you are just another full of s * * t troll. Stop wasting my time, go do something productive with your life and stop acting like an ignorant little punk.

          • THE FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN

            In his Book of Gomorrah, Saint Peter Damian first attacks the problem of clerical moral laxity and sexual perversions from the top down beginning with members of the Catholic hierarchy, that is, bishops and religious superiors who turn a blind eye to the moral depravity within the ranks of clerics and monks under their rule.

            When he speaks of “do-nothing” superiors, the reader can almost feel the earth shake under him:

            Listen, you do-nothing superiors of clerics and priests. Listen, and even though you feel sure of yourselves, tremble at the thought that you are partners in the guilt of others; those, I mean, who wink at the sins of their subjects that need correction and who by ill-considered silence allow them license to sin. Listen, I say, and be shrewd enough to understand that all of you alike are deserving of death, that is, not only those who do such things, but also they who approve those who practice them (Romans 1:32).

            Having launched that thunderbolt, Damian then attacks, with even more vehemence, those reprobate bishops and religious superiors who themselves are guilty of heinous sodomitic acts and who prostitute their own spiritual sons – seminarians, priests and monks under their care.

            “In fact, this vice cannot in any way be compared to any others, because its enormity supersedes them all. Indeed, this vice causes the death of bodies and the destruction of souls. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of reason, and expels the Holy Ghost from His temple in the heart of man, introducing in His stead the Devil who is the instigator of lust.

            “It steers the soul into error, banishes all truth from the deceived soul, sets traps for those who fall into it, and then caps the well to prevent those who fall in from getting out. It opens the gates of Hell and closes the doors of Heaven to them, turns a former citizen of the heavenly Jerusalem into an heir of the infernal Babylon, transforming him from a heavenly star into a straw for the eternal fire. It wrenches a member from the Church and plunges him into the voracious flames of the fiery Gehenna.

            “This vice strives to tear down the walls of the heavenly motherland and rebuild those of the ruined Sodom. Indeed, it violates temperance, kills purity, stifles chastity, and cuts the head of virginity – which is irrecoverable – with the sword of a most infamous union. It infects everything, stains everything, pollutes everything; leaving nothing pure, nothing but filth, nothing clean. ‘All things are clean to the clean,’ as the Apostle says, ‘but to them that are defiled, and to unbelievers, nothing is clean; but both their mind and their conscience are defiled (Tit 1:15).

            “This vice expels one from the choir of the ecclesiastical host and forces one to join the ranks of the possessed and those who work in league with the Devil. It separates the soul from God and links it with the devils. This most pestiferous Sodomite queen makes those who obey her tyrannical laws repugnant to men and hateful to God, forcing them into a nefarious war against God and obliging them to enlist in the ranks of the perverse spirit.

            “It [this sin] separates him from the company of angels and deprives the soul of its nobility, imposing on the unfortunate soul the yoke of its own domination. It tears its henchmen from the arms of virtues and leaves them exposed as prey to the arrows of all the vices. It leaves one to be humiliated in the Church, condemned at court, defiled in secret, and dishonored in public. It gnaws at the person’s conscience like a worm and burns his flesh like fire …

            “The miserable flesh burns with the fire of lust, the cold intelligence trembles under the rancor of misgivings, and the unfortunate man’s heart is overwhelmed by hellish chaos, subjecting him to countless pains of conscience as he is tortured in punishment.

            “Yes, as soon as this most venomous serpent plunges its fangs into the unfortunate soul, it is immediately deprived of its senses and memory, the edge of the intelligence is dulled, he forgets God and even himself.”

            “Indeed, this scourge destroys the foundations of the faith, weakens the forces of hope, dissolves the bonds of charity, annihilates all justice, undermines fortitude, eliminates hope, and dulls the edge of prudence.

            “And what else shall I say? For it [the sin of sodomy] expels all the forces of virtue from the temple of the human heart, and, as if pulling the door from its hinges, allows the entrance of every barbarity of vice ….

            “In effect, the one whom …. this most atrocious beast has swallowed down its bloody throat is prevented, by the weight of its chains, from practicing any good work, and is precipitated into the abysses of his uttermost iniquity.

            “Thus, as soon as someone has fallen into this abyss of extreme perdition, he is exiled from the heavenly motherland, separated from the Body of Christ, censured by the authority of the whole Church, condemned by the judgment of all the Holy Fathers, despised by men on earth and rebuked by the society of heavenly citizens. He creates for himself an earth of iron and a sky of bronze.

            “On the one hand, laden with the weight of his crime, he is unable to rise; on the other hand, he is no longer able to conceal his evil in the refuge of ignorance. He cannot be happy while he lives nor have hope when he dies, because here and now he is obliged to suffer the ignominy of men’s derision and, later, the torment of eternal condemnation.”

          • It is amazing how someone can write so much and yet say so little. From where did you cut and paste this? You sure like to hear yourself talk, don’t you?

            Read MY comment “Buddy” to that Philistine John C Carleton. And I quote:

            ” I loathe and despise any Priest who would molest a child. He has failed his parish, his faith and God. An as a lifelong Catholic I have seen 6 Pontiffs in my 59 years on this planet and I find they current “pope” to be a HERETIC.”

          • THE BEAUTIFUL HANDS OF THE PRIEST

            We need them in life’s early morning,
            We need them again at its close;
            We feel their warm clasp of true friendship,
            We seek them when tasting life’s woes.
            At the altar each day we behold them,
            And the hands of a king on his throne
            Are not equal to them in their greatness;
            Their dignity stands all alone;
            And when we are tempted and wander,
            To pathways of shame and of sin,
            It’s the hand of a priest that will absolve us–
            Not once, but again and again.
            And when we are taking life’s partner,
            Other hands may prepare us a feast,
            But the hand that will bless and unite us–
            Is the beautiful hand of a priest.
            God bless them and keep them all holy,
            For the Host which their fingers caress;
            When can a poor sinner do better,
            Than to ask Him to guide thee and bless?
            When the hour of death comes upon us,
            May our courage and strength be increased,
            By seeing raised over us in blessing–
            The beautiful hands of a priest.

            ALTER CHRISTUS

            The Roman Catholic Church teaches that her priests are “Alter Christus,” which means literally “another Christ.” Because Christ is God, this is a most serious claim. One would expect to hear such a claim from the false pagan religions, but from a supposedly Christian religion? Here’s some evidence for you to consider.

            “The priest is indeed another Christ, or in some way he is himself a continuation of Christ.”
            (Pope Pius XI, Encyclical on the Priesthood).

            “The priest on earth (is) another Christ.”
            (The New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism.)

            “In this moment, the priest quite literally becomes Christ Himself.”
            (This is the Mass, Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, Page 100)

            “The priest is not just the cross, he is Christ Himself.”
            (The Lone Star Catholic, March 1, 1959)
            “To the carnal eye, the priest looks like other men, but to the eye of faith he is exalted above angels.”
            (Faith of our Fathers, Gibbons, Page 422)

            “Another grace of the synod [Synod of Bishops, October, 1990] was a new maturity in the way of looking at priestly service in the Church; and thus also of the personal life of each and every priest, that is to say, of each priest’s participation in the saving mystery of Christ: ‘Sacerdos Alter Christus.'”

            (Pope John Paul II, Letter to Catholic priests on the occasion of Holy Thursday, 1991).

            “The priest is given transcendent power to forgive sins, to administer the sacraments, but most of all to offer the Eucharistic Sacrifice, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, in which he becomes an ‘Alter Christus'”
            (Pastoral Reflections on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass [http://www.cny.org/archives/cv092498.htm], Cardinal John J. O’Conner.)

            “In the sacrifice of Jesus Christ the priest is a substitute of Christ Himself. As a result of his ordination, he is a true alter Christus.”
            (The Latin Mass: Chronicle of a Catholic Reform, Summer 1995 Issue [http://www.latinmassmagazine.com/stickler.html]. )

            “Thus the priest, as is said with good reason, is indeed another Christ;”
            (Papal Encyclical ‘Ad Catholici Sacerdotii’ on the priesthood, Pope Pius XI, December 20, 1935)

            “What did the Pedophile Roman Catholic Priest say to the Altar boy, as he buggered him in the Sacristy”?

            “Body of Christ”!

          • Then why are you defending a church that hides cardinal bernard law to this day? He was kidnapped by the vatican and flown by private jet to the vatican to prevent his testimony in the trials of over a dozen child raping priests.

          • Kathlik laemun ur reeleeveed hwen thaie find owt thaer preests been rapin gurlz en th kunt ensted uv fcukin buttholez. Hwew!
            Natcheral synne iz betur ir less bad then sodomie. Seed spillin Onanests.

          • It is very plain to see that you have been schooled well past your intelligence level.
            Schooling and education is not the same. Schooling, western style, is being able to swallow government propaganda, and regurgitate it upon demand, verbally or written.

            Education is where one deals with the truth, and pays the price putting up with crap like yours, from ignorant people, who would not recognize the truth if it bit them in their posterior.

          • Past my intelligence level? My IQ is 132. And while going through my Master’s program I co-authored a procedure for isolating certain genomic fragments of a very highly virulent gram negative rod Vibrio vulnificus, for which we both were eventually awarded a patent. How may plaques do you have on your wall recognizing you as a patent holder?

            You do an awful lot of talking for someone who really has very little to say. And what exactly was your MOS in the military?

          • I have to mock this.

            A 132 IQ is only slightly above average. Being there are states that have entire urban and suburban areas where any given person on average has an IQ of 110-120, that is not impressive at all…

            Every other person making six-figures or greater without connections has a similar or higher IQ. Anyone who can articulate words with ease, do basic acting, and explain complex things rudimentarily or teach instinctually has a similar or higher IQ. Anyone who can paint very well or create and decipher complex music with absolute pitch already has already such, or greater an IQ.

            IQ is also from the failed eugenics theory. It fails to account for spirituality, creativity, or actual cognitive potential because is it atheistic and agnostic. And what it really does is simply gives a number from essentially (-)70-200(+) on how well the mother did on developing, birthing, and raising her child.

            As most modern mothers fail this task, and vaccinate and fail to give supplements to their children, the population sees lower and lower IQs. IQ is not stagnant, and can be raised through epigenetic means and lowered by idleness and abuse of the brain and body. IQ nowadays has been reduced to a penis size argument.

            Most high IQ people are most talented at being politically correct tools and finding creative ways to hurt and scam other people. I find rural hillbillies exhibit more impressive displays of the use of their cognitive and potential abilities, in their drunken stupors.

          • Go ahead and mock, the only person who will look stupid is YOU. Perhaps you fall in the low 70’s

            Here is the established IQ scale as set forth by Stanford Binet:

            70-79 – Borderline Deficiency
            80-89 – Dull
            90-109 – Average
            110-119 – Superior
            120-139 – Very Superior
            140+ – Genius

            But don’t take my word for it, go look it up

          • “Very superior”, you schmuck? Any idea what PLEONASM means? Run to Wikipedia, Mensa boy!..

          • We’re really impressed by your word of the day PeeWee Herman…That is sarcasm by the way…I hope I’m not using too many words to convey my message…? That would be a rhetorical question…

          • Hel, I testid kumbind 143 an am stoopid. Fcukd up mie hole liyf. Betur tuh bee 95-105 an not stoopid fcukup.
            Entelijuns ez ohvurratid.
            “Too soon oldt. Too late schmardt.” Story of life.

          • You sound like you’re jealous of him….and vaccinating and giving supplements to kids has nothing to do with IQ. I do however agree that the current means of testing IQ is flawed and doesn’t account for some of the things you mentioned. I also do not agree with your generalized statement about “politically correct tools”—most of them are SJW libtards and not of a high IQ/educated…

          • Who cares about your guys spelling and I.Q. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN POWER RAPE ING AND MOLESTING CHILDREN AND WITH EVERYONE CAUGHT GOD KNOW HOW MANY ARE NOT WHAT THE HELL IS A MATTER WITH YOU.

          • B.S. = Bool Sheet
            M.S. Mowr uv de Saym.
            Ph.D. = Pild hayer n Deepr.
            B.A. = Beg Anus
            M.A. = Massiv Anus
            Ph.D. = Phat Dummie
            Eddikatid Idjits
            Doan noe Ass frum Hol En thuh Grawnd.

          • Oh, by the way, not that i give rats butt about your opinion of me, lions do not care what sheep think, but the spelling thing is hereditary. When i scored in the top 97% of the USA, in my graduating year, on the college entrance exams, in things like Government, History, (when i entered University, was given US History, 101 and 102, without taking the classes), economics, and Military knowledge, Was offered West Point on a platter from the local congressman, (did enlisted later, knew about those West Point wonders from my brother and other Viet Nam vets), i could not spell well.

            My nephew, the Nuclear Engineer and Masters in Business sheep skin holder, can not spell either.

          • Ironically, I had a friend with a mensa-qualifying IQ (155 or so) tell me long ago: people who pick on spelling and grammar have automatically lost the argument.

            Never seen that logic fail, once.

          • Runs in the family, along with a hell of a lot of valedictorians and salutatorians . I can still hear my dad when he was writing something, say, “Mama, how do you spell sos and so”. And she would tell him. I do the same to my wife.

            Someone who tries to cut you down on spelling is a control freak who has no ammo or has run out of ammo, and mentally challenged to try such BS.

            Course my wife says that i have no common sense, but i do. I have the scars to prove when i learned each lesson.

          • “Someone who tries to cut you down on spelling is a control freak who has no ammo or has run out of ammo, and mentally challenged to try such BS.” Or they’re simply people who know how to spell and it irks them that adults who should have learned to spell in grade school didn’t. Acting holier than though or like it doesn’t matter that you can’t spell is appalling.

          • Speleng waz not standurdized until Webstur’s dikshunerie. Johnson’s dikshunerie didn’t becum popular enuff to to be of much enfluents toerd standurdizashun ov speleng.

          • “I” is always capitalized and it’s “Of course, not just “course”, or better yet, use “As a matter of fact,”

          • You are an ignorant ass trying your best to charter assassinate the truth. That means you’re lower than orangoutang poo.

          • Charter assassinate the truth? WTF does that mean? It’s orangutan, not orangoutang ….of which I’m starting to wonder is a very recent evolutionary cousin of yours…?

          • Take a deep breath. Repeat after me. I will try to control my zionist evil urges. Say it again and again. good luck

          • Actually, spelling and grammar is a good indicator of someone’s intelligence, unless of course English is not his/her first language.

          • Jesus is brown and religion is superstistion. All these preists on a mission. To go to hell and never come back. Because these loons are following god’s “pact”.

          • A Kathlik preest tole me that most Kathlik preests ehr going too hel bekawz theie knoe too doo raht and don’t.
            He sed almost awl popes er roastin en hel bekawz theie er the wurst unrepennant sinnerz.
            Wheye doo preests rayp boies when tha hav plentie uv nunz too fcuk?

          • English is a difficult language especially spellingwise due to so many irregulars and archaic nonphonetic spellings.
            Cough = kawf
            Rough = ruf
            Slough = slew (a word meaning “killed”)
            Bough = bou, bow
            Ought = awt
            Enough = enuf
            Dough = doe (a word meaning “female deer”)
            Hough = hock (itself a word meaning “to pawn”)
            Tough = tuf
            Just to get started.
            Many languages have 100% phonetic spelling. Spelling-bees are unknown.

          • You kkkristers are good at telling others to prove a negative. Now it is time for YOU to prove your church did not do anything wrong.

            Your BS claim about not being kkkatlik is laughable. I grew up in that church and I know full well the indoctrination and brain washing that goes on to instill your god’s evil in people.

          • Pleez don’t blaym Krestyanz fer whut the Kathlik Cherch duz. Thaeie bin huntin an murdren Krestyanz fer 1,700+ yeerz. After Lootur and Kalven started the Prodstunt brantch uv the Kathlik Cherch thaeie set uhbowt huntin an murdren Krestyanz. When Prodstunts kudn ketch the Krestyanz they’d rat em owt too the Kathliks. When Kathliks kudn ketch thuh Krestyanz they’d rat em owt too the Prodstunts.
            Krestyanz hoo eskapd mostlie ran awf too the mowntanz and hed awt.

          • Scott Murphy
            John C Carleton
            Here’s a tip for arguing. If you are going to try to gain the upper hand by claiming your opponents spelling mistake makes them inferior in some way you probably should make sure there is none in the very post you chastise them in.

          • These same idiots want everyone else to provide proof of God, yet you caught him with his pants down (pun intended) making outlandish claims to perpetuate his own atheist/liberal agenda….I can guarantee you he’s a liberal since they all do this, lie, make shit up, pin people against each other (racism, sexism, homophobia) so people riot and protest…

          • You are humping my leg, not the other way around. Cur dogs are always a problem.

          • A Cur dog “is a mongrel mutt or crossbred dog. Cur dogs are uniquely American and played a crucial role in the lives of early rural settlers who developed a hardy hunting dog that helped them tame the wilderness in the South where these dogs originated. Cur breeds are considered the first true American purebreds and have their own distinct hunting style.”…

          • You can be accomplished is areas of life while being ignorant and enjoying loyalty to a cause of institution. Loyalty is plague with the support of a cause, person or institution regardless the facts presented. This is why it is suggested never to argue politics or religion. The Catholic church is modeled after the Egyptian gods, which was a pagan religion. It goes downhill from there.

          • It doesn’t matter if it’s been 2,000 years or 20 years John’s message is quite clear!

          • Then I guess according to your and John’s logic that all white people are racist slave owners who should pay retribution because of a very small percentage of Southerners who were slave owners 200 years ago?

          • Okay, you may want to quote which comment I made and which specific comment I
            replied to in which you’re responding to me about. Same goes for Moco25.
            This conversation is awhile ago and I’ve went above to see which ones both of you may be referring to, but I can’t seem to make the connection.
            Thank you.

          • Moco25, on a side note, those Ashkenazi Jews who were about anything, I mean anything that generated the shekel were the founders and controllers of companies and vessels which shipped and sold slaves during the 1700s and later, yet they express that any criticism of them is so called, Antisemitism. So to your comment, those Jews, which you will find concentrated in Israel among other places, should pay for their enslavement, human abuse and incredible suffering of those blacks and others.

          • Damn Jooz bringin damn Afrikunz ovar heer. Stoopid hwahtz buyin em ensted uv tellen damn Jooz tuh take em bak too Afriker. God gave Africa to the Blacks. Richest continent: gold, diamonds, all kinds of natural resources. Blacks been living on top of vast wealth for 10,000 years and had no idea it was there. Whites showed them it was there and how to get it out. 300 years of whites showing Blacks how to extract wealth from the earth and when the Blacks run the whites out the technology collapses, Blacks tear it all down and sell it for scrap.

          • The John Jay School of Criminal Justice estimates that, in the U.S. alone between 1950 and 2002 hundreds of thousands of children have been sexually abused by Catholic Clergy.

            In fact, the Catholic Church has a 2,000 year history of sex abuse. In their acclaimed book, Sex, Priests and Secret Codes(2006), Father Thomas Doyle, with former monks Richard Sipes and Patrick Wall, used its own documents to confirm the Church’s 2,000-year problem with clergymen sex abuse.

          • “Problem?” The Roman Church has no problem with pederasty. Its problem is traitors spilling the beans, or maybe their semen, out to the anticatholics. Every priest needs a catamite or two. Just like the pre-“Christian” Roman priests.

          • Fuck off pedophile. This abhorrent rape of children has occurred in nearly every archdiocese in America and you have the audacity call that “INFINITESIMALLY small”? Your intellect and penis are INFINITESIMALLY SMALL ! We’ll all be spreading the word about your pedophilia you disgusting maggot. Do the world and your victims a favor, kill yourself now.

          • You are a very special brand of stupid aren’t you? You are one severely damaged individual, you should be studied cold.

          • No, Matt is treating you as you have treated others here. It seems name calling is all you understand. Is your supposedly omnipotent and omniscient god incapable of giving you better arguments?

          • Hawking (means clearing a loogie from your throat) is stll sesrching for his “God particle.”

          • You’re a sick person to accuse him of having a small penis and being a pedophile and then making a death threat. What kind of twisted, libtard logic is that? You sound like you were either sexually abused and/or are a pedo….

          • Most of the info on pederasty in the Catholic Church comes from disgusted Roman Catholic priests.
            Catholic Rectory is a homosexual pedophilic brothel.
            Catholics make dark jokes about it. Point out sneaking girls in the back door for private “confessions” and “counseling.” More like virgin busting. Those were the young priests’ prey until the older priests converted them to anus busting. Rather siht come out of an orifice than babies.

          • pick up a newspaper,watch the the fucking news,check court records

          • Liberal media bias and surely some are false accusations motivated by money and religious hatred…

      • A sobbing Ms Murphy approaches Fr O’Grady after mass.

        He says: “So what’s bothering you?”

        She replies: “Oh, Father, I’ve terrible news. My husband passed away last night.”

        The priest says: “Oh, Mary, that’s terrible. Did he have any last requests?”

        “Certainly father,” she replied. “He said: “Please Mary, put down that damn gun.”

      • Unfounded! Are you crazy? She might have her time frames off, but ages correct that we are responsible for what happens to our children until they are grown. The fact that it happens at all it unacceptable! Priests have a position of trust and a degree of control over those in their spiritual care. To violate this trust as the church did, is wrong. Hardly an idiotic complaint!

        • There are always going to be sick, evil predators among us regardless of the religion or organization…be it Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, potentially your kid’s teacher or boy scout leader, or local rabbi, priest, imam, minister, Buddhist monk, etc. The only difference being how biased the media is in covering such topics primarily targeting Conservatives-including Catholics, and seemingly giving a pass to Liberals and minority groups and their religions…

          • The Grand Object: “Sex Before Eight Or It’s Too Late.” Now that sodomites can buy marriage licenses, the next item is legalizing child raping.

      • The Bible lists the age of consent as puberty, more specifically when the child shows signs of secondary sex characteristics (breasts, pubic hair) and are then married off, so yes. The Church HAS been molesting children for 2000 years if you judge it by our age of consent laws rather than their misguided idea that when hormones happen the brain is ready for sex (rape) and can judge when it is appropriate to do so. https://discover-the-truth.com/2014/07/01/minimum-age-for-marriage-in-the-bible/

      • Read the history of your damned church. Your god needs to be killed. VERY SOON.

        So how is cardinal bernard law doing hidden away in the vatican? He was shipped there by private jet to prevent his testimony in over a dozen child rape lawsuits in Boston.

      • Considering the fact that there are atleast 500 reports of sexual abuse every year against catholic priests… I’d say the frequency of this s not, as you put it, “INFINITESIMALLY small.” Especially, since it has been reasonably suggested that 100s-1000s go unreported each year.
        Now, I read a bit further down and noticed you doing a lot of “show me sources, no you sow me sources first, you’re ignrant, no I called you gnorant first, show me your sources” you have had PLENTY of time to do some of your own research. Since you haven’t done that, one can only assume you don’t actually want your request answered, you’re simply looking for confirmation bias and will reject anything that speaks against your opnion. So why bother contributin to the conversation at all?
        Are you irritating that this will give your religion an even worse reputation than it already has?
        Or is your head just stuck so far up your own at that you can only see through your mouth?

        • Cite your source for 500 reports? Are we to assume all are truthful reports and not just done by those with ulterior motives of cash payment for silence or a personal vendetta against the Church they left years before? It reminds me of all the women who suddenly came out of the woodwork after the jock talk video of president Trump talking about grabbing vajayjays…….No, there was no liberal propaganda involved there as they had no evidence whatsoever… Just as there couldn’t possibly be anti-Catholic hatred from ex-Catholics-now-atheists-Satanists-Reformed Baptist-Jehovah Witnesses, whatever making claims of sexual abuse. It’s a he said, she said situation, there is no way of proving it. Obviously there are pedophile priests out there just as there are pedophile rabbis, imams, Satanic leaders, teachers, doctors, Boy Scout leaders, Daycare givers, etc. etc…. However, the key difference is there was far more liberal media coverage of accused pedophile priests than there is over teachers or even the democrat politician Anthony Weiner who sent pictures of his junk and texts to minors…

      • facts stand. Catholic priests rape boys and think its fine using their stupid bullshit brainless theocracy as a shield to do heinous crimes.

      • small ? have you heard what happened in boston,john geoghan alone raped over 100 children….that’s just one priest out of a sea of other dirty priests. you fuckers wont be happy till you can burn people at the stake again

    • Sexual abuse in public schools is far more rampant than in the Church, but you provide them with your children don’t you? This is just fodder for atheists and Catholic bashers to hate on the Church. Yes, this guy in the video is a scumball, but he’s human and there are bad humans regardless of the organization…There are certainly plenty of examples of bad dictators who were atheist…

      • The local school district had a celebration when our last child left their tender loving care, because i shoved the truth up their rears regularly.
        Wife would write notes to me in the meetings so i could shove the truth up their rears
        I don’t like zionist, ass holes, pedop[hiles, people who betray their own people for personal gain or comfort, or zionist indoctrinated sheep
        That about covers you.

        • You know nothing about me Mr. inbred hillbilly trash. I don’t like those people either nor do I like idiots like you who take one incident and blow it out of proportion labeling an entire denomination that includes over a billion people as adherents as all being pedophiles or pedophilic supporters… I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a liberal and hypocritically defend Islam as there is ample evidence that their religion promotes intolerance and violence against non-adherents….Atheists, which I assume you are, also love to target Christians in general (the easier target that doesn’t retaliate) but yet keep their flapping jaws shut over Islam…. Why is that? (rhetorical question)…

          • My ancestors endured hardships your zionist ass can not imagine. to kick the evil of the zionist British Empire out of America. You think i would have mercy on such scum as yourself which is trying to make a zionist s#it hole of the land my ancestors bled and died to build. FK you. Kiss my rear. You are the dog poo beneath my feet. Imagine the worst thing you can, the most grotesque thing you can think of. To me, you are lower than that. Remember, you attacked me, i did not attack you. Have a real nice day now.

          • I’m done trying to have a conversation with the inbred trashy likes of you. For the record, you’re the one picking fights with others and posting fallacies you can’t even back up. I’d like to see you prove you even have a high school GED because I have a feeling you didn’t finish grammar school…You must live in a shack in the mountains of W. Virginia and spend all day making moonshine out of dog piss…

          • Well, your control freak zionist degenerate butt tried to character assassinate me, not i you. You attacked my leg, not i yours.
            You picked a fight with me, not i you.
            Just that bile in the throat evil control freak tendencies you deal with continually.
            I really prefer not to give advice to confused souls any more.
            SO, carry on, and good luck
            I think you will need it.

          • Back again, i knew you would be. You have no control over yourself, you are but the action to my thought. you can no longer resist. The evil surrenders, the vessel expires.

          • I think you already are touched by the beast…one of the signs of demonic oppression can be narcissism, combined with your deliberate attempt at deceit and hatred towards the Church…You are already on your way to full on possession….

          • Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium. Ímperet ílli Déus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo, divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde. Ámen.

  2. We have a catholic grub here in Australia just like him our Cardinal George Pell … he doesn’t seem to remember a whole lot of stuff that was brought to his attention. Stuff he just swept under the carpet..these days he is hiding in the Vatican… but als his day will come when he stands before our Creator and he is sent directly to hell.. do not pass go do not collect $200. Listen to this clever song …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHOmforqxk

  3. If anything will ever stop this sexual abuse it needs to start with the previous pope. He covered up ALL the abuse and ALL the priests and leaders that knew about it and remained silent. He resigned because his cover up was in going to be ecposed. From the local priests to the pope it has been millions of cover up money to allow these pedophiles freedom to continue. These priests are moved from one location to another. When they get found out they either hide out in the priest rehab for pedophilia priests or hide in the Vatican. Their own physychiatrists report the priests they have treated return to abuse chidren after leaving rehab in every case thats treated. Seems they know jail isnt the consequence so they dont stop. Well its a crime and time they pay in lifetime prison. The church has addressed this issue in so many instances and nothing has stopped them. until these priests are arrested it will continue.

    • Not only the previous one- JP2 was doing exactly the same, if not more, in the cover up.

      • JP”I” was murdered to shut him up. JPII while still a bishop Karol Wojtyla was called out during a shipyard visit to Gdansk.
        Think an old buttfcuker is going to clean up the Church’s act?

  4. “If they don’t know what they are doing”….then it is rape!!! What a terrible oxymoron justification to the most diabolical extreme! It’s almost hard to believe these sick twisted demons deserve anything less than their heads to be cut off! And yet we hold them up in the highest regard, highest positions with power of the people…and that is exactly what they manipulated to get away with it for so long(and they still are)…

  5. I’d like to think the Pope is smarter than stating such things. The Vatican needs to be dissolved/eliminated anyway, as it is under the “authority” of Satan, not Yahweh/Yeshua. A whole lot of migraines are solved by the lack of its existence.

  6. “Not Responsible’ If They Rape Children” sounds like something you’d expect a muslim to say.

  7. I can’t believe that people still believe this shlt. The main issues with the pervert priests were their homosexual activities with young men and teenage boys. Pedophilia has to be with an adult and a prepubescent child and that was rarely, if ever the case. This is predominately a gay, immorality issue that is never described as such by the media. These degenerate acts took place mostly decades ago and the problem priests were and are being dealt with. There’s so much more sick shlt going on in the public schools (and some yeshivas) between teachers and students that it’s epidemic in scope. You hear about an individual case but you never see an entire entity slandered with a broad condemnation.

    • If anyone believes in Pope Francis’ innocence just google, 5 International judges find Pope Francis guilty.

  8. No wonder the pope has no problem with saying Catholics (I refuse to say we Christians) have a lot in common with the belief system that has a pedo for a “prophet”!

  9. If Robert Cunningham has been accurately quoted then he should be dismissed. I am deeply ashamed to belong to a Church with such a man in authority. The Church cannot receive any credibility in the world whilst such people hold office.

  10. Rape is Rape! Why is there even a debate? Using religious authority and trust on anyone at any age or stage with anyone is particularly despicable.

    • “Rape is rape?” A girl being fcuked by her date suddenly realizes in the heat of passion that she’s about to get seeded and says, “Stop!” as she feels him pumping his seed into her. Rape. She changed her mind after the fact. Rape.
      That’s no dufferent from a priest raping a boy’s anus?

  11. I am a life long Catholic and there have been a total of 6 Pontiffs in my lifetime. This HERETIC has got to go NOW. A priest who commits these atrocious acts has not only betrayed his parish, but his calling and our Almighty God and must be held accountable to the limits of the law.

    Pope “Franky” has GOT TO GO NOW

  12. It’s far worse than described here. Google, 5 International judges find Pope Francis guilty.

  13. I didn’t know that Catholic Priests were above the law of the land, and excused from being on sex offenders lists.

  14. THE BEAUTIFUL HANDS OF THE PRIEST

    We need them in life’s early morning,
    We need them again at its close;
    We feel their warm clasp of true friendship,
    We seek them when tasting life’s woes.
    At the altar each day we behold them,
    And the hands of a king on his throne
    Are not equal to them in their greatness;
    Their dignity stands all alone;
    And when we are tempted and wander,
    To pathways of shame and of sin,
    It’s the hand of a priest that will absolve us–
    Not once, but again and again.
    And when we are taking life’s partner,
    Other hands may prepare us a feast,
    But the hand that will bless and unite us–
    Is the beautiful hand of a priest.
    God bless them and keep them all holy,
    For the Host which their fingers caress;
    When can a poor sinner do better,
    Than to ask Him to guide thee and bless?
    When the hour of death comes upon us,
    May our courage and strength be increased,
    By seeing raised over us in blessing–
    The beautiful hands of a priest.

    ALTER CHRISTUS

    The Roman Catholic Church teaches that her priests are “Alter Christus,” which means literally “another Christ.” Because Christ is God, this is a most serious claim. One would expect to hear such a claim from the false pagan religions, but from a supposedly Christian religion? Here’s some evidence for you to consider.

    “The priest is indeed another Christ, or in some way he is himself a continuation of Christ.”
    (Pope Pius XI, Encyclical on the Priesthood).

    “The priest on earth (is) another Christ.”
    (The New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism.)

    “In this moment, the priest quite literally becomes Christ Himself.”
    (This is the Mass, Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, Page 100)

    “The priest is not just the cross, he is Christ Himself.”
    (The Lone Star Catholic, March 1, 1959)
    “To the carnal eye, the priest looks like other men, but to the eye of faith he is exalted above angels.”
    (Faith of our Fathers, Gibbons, Page 422)

    “Another grace of the synod [Synod of Bishops, October, 1990] was a new maturity in the way of looking at priestly service in the Church; and thus also of the personal life of each and every priest, that is to say, of each priest’s participation in the saving mystery of Christ: ‘Sacerdos Alter Christus.'”

    (Pope John Paul II, Letter to Catholic priests on the occasion of Holy Thursday, 1991).

    “The priest is given transcendent power to forgive sins, to administer the sacraments, but most of all to offer the Eucharistic Sacrifice, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, in which he becomes an ‘Alter Christus'”
    (Pastoral Reflections on the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass [http://www.cny.org/archives/cv092498.htm], Cardinal John J. O’Conner.)

    “In the sacrifice of Jesus Christ the priest is a substitute of Christ Himself. As a result of his ordination, he is a true alter Christus.”
    (The Latin Mass: Chronicle of a Catholic Reform, Summer 1995 Issue [http://www.latinmassmagazine.com/stickler.html]. )

    “Thus the priest, as is said with good reason, is indeed another Christ;”
    (Papal Encyclical ‘Ad Catholici Sacerdotii’ on the priesthood, Pope Pius XI, December 20, 1935)

    “What did the Paedophile Roman Catholic Priest say to the Altar boy, as he buggered him in the Sacristy”?

    “Body of Christ”!

  15. Smartest thing I ever did was leave the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. My father and uncles were molested as alter boy by priests At the age of 4 I was molested by my uncle….also sexually assaulted by a Christian Brother at he age of 18…he was my teacher…

    • They bring shame to the name of Jesus the Christ. Everywhere in the world people despise Christians because they think the Church of Rome is Christian.

  16. A Texan walks into a pub in Ireland and clears his voice to the crowd of drinkers. He says, “I hear you Irish are a bunch of hard drinkers. I’ll give $500 American dollars to anybody in here who can drink 10 pints of Guinness back-to-back.”
    The room is quiet and no one takes up the Texan’s offer. One man even leaves. Thirty minutes later the same gentleman who left shows back up and taps the Texan on the shoulder. “Is your bet still good?”, asks the Irishman.
    The Texan says yes and asks the bartender to line up 10 pints of Guinness. Immediately the Irishman tears into all 10 of the pint glasses drinking them all back-to-back. The other pub patrons cheer as the Texan sits in amazement.
    The Texan gives the Irishman the $500 and says, “If ya don’t mind me askin’, where did you go for that 30 minutes you were gone?”
    Murphy replies, “Oh…I had to go to the pub down the street to see if I could do it first”

  17. This bishop must be drinking to much wine!! Anyone that rapes or molest children should be boiled in oil!

  18. The fact that the child-victim is 7 y/o or less does not take the burden of guilt off the priest-rapist. HE knew what he was doing, regardless if the age of the child-victim. The fact that a child rape victim is 7 or less, only heightens the seriousness of the degree of the crime. A priest-rapist is a rapist and should be treated as the criminal that he is. It is unconscionable that a Bishop of the Catholic church should make the unbelievably irresponsible statement that the priest is not responsible due to the tender age of the victim. On the contrary that only makes the crime more serious. As a catholic, I would hope the Pope Francis would immediately disavow that statement and discipline the Bishop who uttered it.

  19. He doesn’t know when he knew that pedophilia is a crime??!!? That’s as bad as anything else that is being attributed to him!!

  20. The Church is having a say about an age of “reason”, but to play a clinician or a psychologist on these matters cannot be defended. The Church has no clue about understanding the human development from the point of view developmental psychology, that the most helping professions learn. These clerical statements are inadequate and detrimental to the society. Yes, at times other professions took there bid on understanding the human functioning, but the accumulated knowledge we have today provides perhaps better guidance for a safe human development then dogmas of a religious origin. Brainwashing, propaganda and adhering to dogma, is that what we face here?

  21. Despicable title! The truth is, one archbishop uttered some terrible words.
    The Pope, on picture for sure said else. Seems a vile method to put words in his mouth.

  22. ‘I’m smarter than you” … “You misspelled this or that” … “I have a PHD or a Master’s” …”scored highest in class” …”Vietnam Vet” ….” Military knowledge”. Oh Jesus, I’m wondering what all this has to do with “filthy priest who force themselves on our kids”; it’s DISGUSTING! There’s no right about it any way you look at it; truth can not be denied. Not understanding the “fight” here via mid a discussion. Can’t we all just “try” to do better with one another; it’s worth trying. Two thousand years of evidence of pedophile priest, parents still provide them with their children to be used as sex toys; Why?

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