One month has passed since the Las Vegas shooting and we still do not have answers about what happened in the Mandalay Bay that night, or why eight eyewitness survivors, plus one high profile attorney, have wound up dead.
The official narrative stinks so badly that mainstream media outlets have been forced by their viewers to begin questioning the event. An alliance of mainstream media outlets are now suing authorities in Nevada for covering-up the truth about what happened during the Las Vegas shooting, demanding officials turn over law enforcement records relating to the massacre that left 58 people dead.
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But mainstream media is playing catch up. Alternative media and independent investigative journalists have been responsible for pursuing the truth about what happened in Vegas on October 1, and shining a light on the major cover up taking place before our very eyes.
A staggering eight survivors, eyewitnesses and a legal attorney representing key players in the Las Vegas shooting have died in suspicious circumstances. Others are missing. What are the odds on eight people dying, the majority of them very young, in such a short space of time? The odds would be astronomical.
The fact is all of those eight people, every single one of them, had one thing in common, other than being there during the shooting, or having inside information. They all had information on the attack that contradicts the official narrative.
Let’s take a look at each of these victims one by one and examine their conflicting versions of what happened in Las Vegas on October 1.
Dennis and Lorraine Carver
The most recent eyewitnesses to die were Dennis and Lorraine Carver, a married couple from California. Their car suddenly veered off the road outside their home and crashed into a gate, exploding into a fireball on impact, killing both of them instantly. A spokesman for the local fire authority said it took fire fighters over one hour to extinguish the blaze.
After escaping from the Las Vegas shooting intact, they later explained how they were lucky to be alive. Mrs. Carver described how her husband protected her from the “shooters” by shielding them inside a beer refrigerator until it was safe to run away.
After managing to escape, Lorraine posted updates on Facebook to let friends and family know they were OK, saying: “I think the shooters have gone.” Other than saying there were “shooters” during the attack, the Carvers weren’t perhaps as vocal as some other witnesses, and you could perhaps write off their death as a bizarre coincidence if it wasn’t for the loss of Mr. Carver’s phone.
Suspicions surrounding the real nature of their death was raised when, one week after the fatal crash, the couple’s eldest daughter, Brooke Carver, received an item carrying memories of her 52-year-old father through the post.
During the confusion of the shooting, he had lost his phone that was full of photos and videos from the night of the attack. His phone had somehow ended up in the FBI’s possession, but a Las Vegas agent promised to ship the phone back to him.
“When we turned it on, all his photos and messages were still there,” Brooke said.
The question is why did the FBI take three weeks to return the phone?
As has been widely reported, the phones and laptops of eyewitnesses were confiscated and wiped by the FBI, so why was Mr. Carver’s phone returned seemingly intact?
Brooke Carver says “all his photos and messages were still there,” but how would she know if anything had been deleted? She wouldn’t have seen what was on her father’s phone before the FBI had it.
Could the Carver’s have captured something they shouldn’t have? Perhaps unknowingly?
Danny Contreras
In the same week the Carvers died, Danny Contreras, an eyewitness Las Vegas shooting survivor who publicly claimed there were multiple shooters involved in the attack, was been found dead in an empty house in Las Vegas with multiple gunshot wounds.
His body was found in a vacant home in the northeastern valley after a neighbor heard a man groaning inside the building and called 911. Police say Contreras was dead when they arrived at the 5800 block of East Carey Avenue, near North Nellis Boulevard.
The woman who called emergency services to the scene says she didn’t hear any gunshots, but the coroner confirmed that Danny Contreras, 35, died of “multiple gunshot wounds” and ruled his death a homicide.
Mr. Contreras tweeted the day after the attacks saying he was “lucky to be alive” after he was “chased by two gunmen.”
His social media post from his Twitter account, which has since been suspended by Twitter, that was shared several times said: “Feeling lcky to be alive. cant beleive i got out of concert alive! 2 men chasing me with guns. not evry 1 so lcky.”
Chad Nishimura
Chad Nishimura, a Mandalay Bay valet, parked the suspected Las Vegas gunman’s car, and gave an interview saying Stephen Paddock was a “normal guy” who “didn’t have many bags”.
Nishimura gave a statement to ABC affiliate, KITV4 News, but the article was quietly pulled from the network’s website after it began attracting attention.
After his account was published, Nishimura disappeared and all of his social media accounts were deleted. His friends and coworkers saying he is “totally unreachable”.
Chad Nishimura’s account seems to prove that Paddock didn’t carry bags of heavy machine guns and other deadly weapons up to his room. One of the biggest holes in the official story is how Paddock could have smuggled all those weapons up to his room, avoiding detection.
Nishimura’s report of “normal guy” Paddock arriving at the hotel without much luggage totally debunks that theory.
As unverified rumors circulate about his death, did Chad Nishimura’s honesty cost him his life?
Kymberley Suchomel
Kymberley Suchomel went public with claims of witnessing multiple gunmen, and was determined to prove the mainstream narrative is wrong. She even announced plans to set up a survivor’s group to shine a light on the truth about what happened in Las Vegas, and expose the lies.
According to Kimberley, the Las Vegas shooting was carried out by multiple gunmen who were chasing people down in the crowd and shooting them. Her post on Facebook quickly went viral as it confirmed what many had already suspected: The mainstream media “official” narrative that Stephen Paddock was a “lone wolf” gunman was false.
Less than one week after she gave this account, Kymberley was found dead at her house in Apple Valley, California.
Orville Almon
Orville Almon, the lawyer representing the Route 91 music festival and Jason Aldean, the singer onstage when the Las Vegas shooting began, was found dead at home after suffering a “seizure during sleep” – the same cause of death as Kymberley Suchomel.
Almon, a prominent Nashville attorney, his practice included re-negotiating existing agreements and new technology issues, and was renowned for negotiating with law enforcement. However his recent social media posts suggested the experienced attorney was feeling the strain of his latest high-profile case.
Describing meetings with MGM, Las Vegas police, and the FBI as “incredibly strange and complex” to one of his friends on recently made private Facebook threads, the attorney was privy to inside information that the FBI, by announcing they are no longer holding press conferences and the investigation is closed, have chosen to withhold from the public.
John Beilman
John Beilman, who was wanted by federal agents following the discovery of a communications device in the hotel room of the officially identified shooter Stephen Paddock, killed both himself and his disabled daughter in an apparent murder-suicide.
Investigators searched Beilman’s Fairport home the day before he shot his severely disabled daughter and himself, according to sources close to the investigation.
Agents executed a search warrant and raided Beilman’s Williamsburg Drive home the day before he took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.
Are these people being silenced to cover up the truth?
Whether this series of disturbing deaths and disappearances are purely coincidental or whether there is something deeply sinister afoot has yet to be determined, but the response by law enforcement and mainstream media – in particular their refusal to address the questions that the informed public want answered – is leading many to arrive at the same conclusion.
When you add in “hero” security guard Jesus Campos’ mysterious comings and goings, and inconsistencies surrounding suspected shooter Stephen Paddock’s life and death, the coincidences seem less and less likely to be innocent.
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All very weird – but what is the motive?
They all said shooteRS were involved not just the guy, Paddock.
Scare the American public into surendering their rights
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I didn’t give the LV conspiracies much credence, but after 8 deaths in a month, its hard to say they aren’t credible now.
22,000 people attended that concert. Is it really surprising that some of them have subsequently died?
8 in the last month – all 8 suspicious deaths and a MGM employee missing completely? Believe what you want, but someone clearly doesn’t want the truth fully known.
The article does not state what they consider a witness being but lets say for the sake of argument that they mean concert atendees.
22,000 people attended that concert. The death rate in america is in 2016 was 823.7 deaths per 100,000 population.
That means in a population of 22,000 people in 2016 (the most recent year that stats are avialable) you would expect there to be 181.214 deaths. Now this article refers to the month after the attack so divide that number by 12 = 15.10.
Had this attach never happened you would expect that out of the concert goers 15.10 would have died in the month subsequently just because of statistical probablility.
Of course if you are fit enough to attend a concert you are not about to die of old age so the number would probably just be those who die of accidental death, murder or suicide.
There is no conspiracy. These are just accidental deaths of those who happened to attend that concert.
You’re entitled to believe that all you want. I’m not stopping you.
I assume too much? You’re tending towards the belief that there is a huge conspiracy whereby the survivors of this attack are being systematically killed. If you choose to believe this conspiracy bullocks you assume much more than I do.
Hardly. You have assumed its normal for people who have the same account of multiple shooters, an account contrary to the FBI narrative, to die in questionable manners based on the assumption that a group of people at a concert would die in the same systematical way of the general population. lol
Its you who ignore the other evidence and clearly trust too much in a narrative that is full of holes. Best of luck with your future ‘predictions’.
I did no such thing. The only assumption I made was that out of a group of 22 000 people some would die. I used basic maths to calculate how many and pointed out given the nature of the attendees that the deaths woul be of a certain nature.
I see nothing in this article that shows that all who died rejected the FBI account.
On ballance I think I’m on pretty solid ground logically.
I’m the first to admit that I’m not the smartest person so can you explain your asteroid comment. I don’t really understand it.
You ignored that fact that most of these people have the same story that is contrary to the official FBI one. That makes your conclusion assumption based. You clearly have done no research outside of this article.
Its been fun, but clearly there is no value in discussing this further with you. Enjoy your opinion, but I’ll stick to my more thoroughly researched and reasoned conclusion. Thanks.
That’s it? You’re going to pussy out? You say that your conclusions is more reasoned. I’m not close minded. Convince me. Also please explain that asteroid thing. I’m intreaged now.
And now your argument has broken down to derogatory statements. Thanks for proving my point about you. lol
You didn’t make any points about me. You just like to make stuff up don’t you. Also please explain that asteroid thing. Now I’m begging LOL
Thanks for continuing to prove your stupidity to us. Good job! lol
And why the obsession with asteroids? LOL
Because you used that statement as a way to dispute my reasonable assumption that if you take a group of 22,000 and give it a month some of them will die.
You are refusing to explain how that is a valid refutation and that indicates to me that you realise it’s a silly point also. Just admit it it’s fine. They can’t all be home runs.
What does baseball have to do with 8 people dying?
It’s called a metaphor. A metaphor is….. no sorry. If your teachers have been unable to teach you basic maths, logic and English then it’s beyond my ability.
Just admit that you made a bad argument. Look at my response to Lynn. Admitting a mistake is not that hard.
What does a metaphor have to do with baseball?
Like I say mate if you struggle to comprehend what I have written it’s beyond my skill level to make you understand.
What I have written is clear enough.
I’m not sure if you are playing dumb or if you are genuine.
Either way I’ll just let your comments stand as a testament to your capacity for comprehension.
Back to insults for your arguments then. lol
Well if you cannot explain your asteroid comment, have no basic comprehension, cannot understand a basic metaphor then you are either dumb or you are acting dumb.
I suspect it is the latter.
I suspect you are aware of how spurious your argument is but because of some mental block you are unable to admit when you are wrong.
I suspect that if looked into your comment history (not that I care to) I would not find a single incidence of you conceding that you are wrong. Think about what that means.
If on the other hand it is the former then while my comments may be insulting they are accurate.
My arguments are solid and they stand.
While you believe you may have well researched and considered disputations you have not said anything other than you have them.
If they are that good let me have em.
Dude, you lost my attention and your argument when you replied with insults, so I’m hardly going to read the post above. Have a nice life.
You claim not to have read my comment however you know I referred to my argument.
You lie like you breathe.
That was a simile BTW.
Oh BTW is an acronym. It stands for… never mind you will claim not to read this anyway.
You still flappin on about what now?
You poor pinheaded gimp… now THAT is an insult, in case you didn’t know. I had no idea how messed up you are until I read your exchange with Tango. Get thee to a looneybin post haste, gimphead.
It tells us everything that you hide your profile, too afraid and ashamed to back up what you say. lol
God TF you are stupid. You were using stats like a narrowminded robot to say how many people should or could die, so statisticly if thats what u were using the earth should of been hit by an asteroid by now. We are due. Meaning even stats arnt always constant. There now u know. Dick.
He’s too dim to get that. lol
That is what I assumed he meant but it was far from clear. Or maybe I am thick.
I don’t know where he got that fact from but even assuming he is right there is a difference between predicting accuracy of a once in 10,000,000 year event and predicting daily events.
So I guess what I really want to know is how that statement disputes my statement (that I should hope would be obvious to anyone) that out of a group of 22000 witnesses over a one month period some of them would die.
Now as you are the General Apathy whisperer maybe you can explain that.
I would ask myself but we are not on speaking terms apparently.
Well some mite die out of that many but usually the stat would not be from a singe lot of 22000 people. They would normally be spread across the country, not just then specific few. Plus to get the same 8 that apparently share the same view the probability is even less u see. when the stat was took it wasent just out of those 22000 people so the odds of it been 8 out of them are massive and to all have the same view. Imagine if it always happend like that, if 22000 football supporters had season tickets then there would be alot of empty seats at the end of the season but it dosent work like that. Does that help?
Sorry but I think you miss my point.
I am willing to own some of the blame for that as I did not show my working.
There are deaths per 100,000 in the US.
2016 = 823.7
I suppose I could average the last few years but I think for this purpose it would be overkill.
The author has not stated what he means by witnesses. The headline reads 8 Los Vegas Shooting Witnesses Dead One Month After Attack
4 Paragraphs later he changes witnesses to survivors (by which I think we can assume he means concert attendees of which there were 22 000) and a legal attorney representing key players.
So that is actually only 7 witnesses and a peripheral character, not the 8 stated in the headline. That is misleading, to say the least.
So we have a field of 22,000 people
Now calculating what percentage of 100,000 22,000 is simple: You are probably there already – It is 22%.
823.7 times .22 will give you how many deaths you would expect from a crowd of 22,000 just by natural attrition in a year.
It comes to 181.214.
Now these deaths occurred within one month of the concert so divide 12 = 15.10
There are lots of variables I have not considered and presumptions I have made to come to that number however it is safe to say that of a crowd of 22,000 there are going to be some deaths.
Enough deaths that anyone could cherry pick those deaths that are considered suspicious and draw a larger narrative from that to imply some kind of grand conspiracy.
But there is just not enough there from an objective reading of the facts to indicate that.
Especially when you consider some other details relating to the specifics of the deaths claimed by Baxter such as…. well just look up some of the holes in the argument on Snopes. All I would do is essential rewrite what they have done.
I am lucky enough to never have experienced anything like what happened in Los Vegas. Those who have survived deserve every ounce of sympathy we have.
However given the chaos, the hail of bullets and the fear that all of those present must have felt it is completely understandable that many of those there would honestly believe that there was multiple shooters and be incorrect.
The author of this article is trying to draw together extremely tenuous links from all over the place to try and justify a belief he already has but the evidence is just not there.
I want you to try and imagine something.
Take a man and arm him with a gun with a bump stock and a large magazine.
Spin him until he is dizzy then blindfold him and point him to the side of a cliff.
Then just let him spray bullets everywhere.
What would you expect to see?
There would be a huge mess with a pretty much random spatter of bullets here and there.
You would not expect to see even spacing between the bullets there would be clustered.
That is an analogy for the random chaos of how and when people die.
What Baxter has done is draw a large jagged and wonky circle around one of these clusters and said see something fishy is going on.
The FBI is going around murdering people who attended the concert and who suggest that there is more than one shooter?
That is an extraordinary claim. It needs to be supported by extraordinary evidence and Baxter’s insinuations are not even ordinary evidence.
Stacie Smith-Salvador – If you are reading this it is something like what my response would have been to the glorious response that was deleted somehow. I only managed to read it once sadly so forgive me if I did not address all your points.
Really if you are going to give lessons and engage “English” and education please go back to all your posts and realize all your bad spelling and grammar mistakes. We all make typos, I am horrible at typing on my phone, but you make blatant spelling and grammar mistakes. You want to have a battle of the word and antagonize others, bring the wits (and in case you need an explanation, that means read what you post, spell check and make sure it all sounds right because you sound like a kid arguing with an adult!) No disrepect, but seriously when you whine about wanting to get your way and having to hear about asteroids and this or that, at least spell it right or speak proper English!
You are correct. My Spelling is atrocious and my grammar not much better.
But do you have any objection the the actual substance of my arguments?
I am happy to engage in good faith with you if you are willing to ignore my spelling and grammar.
Do you dispute that out of a crowd of 22,000 people it is at all surprising that some of them would die in a month?
Honestly, at 1 am I am not inter rated in breaking out a calculator to double check your calculations, however as an educator, or an educated person my first inclination is to laugh and move on from your post because of your issues. But putting that aside, let’s assume your calculations are spot on, 100% *which I highly doubt they tske into consideration all the factors necessary, but we are rolling with it… when you add in the so called coincidences, the outside influences, the fact that multiple shooters, the randomness of dying in a car accident fire the the way the lovely couple did, the botched robbery/murder, etc… most are not usual deaths. Even the young girl who died of so-called natural causes, I don’t by it, as I too have seizures and medications and so forth, it doesn’t just happen, and now with in 1 month, a second death exactly the same cause. That is the issue, these are the blizzard deaths. They don’t account for the cancers, old age etc. I can deduct the car accident (even though it was suspicious) but all others are suspicious. I did read that one may not be the right person, but suspicious deaths is they issue. People die every day, yes some of murder. In fact more people have died from this massacre thst haven’t been reported, numbers haven’t been updated, interesting right? Not one person in dire condition, in ICU, that was on life support, no one died? They have, but numbers weren’t updated to the public. It is just better to keep it at 58. Some went home too. During that month hundred of people in Las Vegas died, do 8 is nothing so throw your theory out. Couple of them died in California. We can’t count numbers here, what we ca count is witnesses dead. And suspicious deaths. Not everything can equate to science or a math equation. Yeah we can breakdown your idea and apply it, but to what county, state, area? Where are those 22,000? Some of those others may have died and we don’t know. Someone may have committed suicide. It was traumatic. Who knows. Your math is just math. But what has been presented is ideas that can be seen, while spme see it as conspiracy theories, others see it as something to be looked at and needed to be explained away. Definitely not made up, definitely something we see as true (other than maybe a mistaken identity) thst several are dead, and a connection exists, is there a reason for it. Math can’t answer all problems. Investigators might be able to.
We have criminal analysts, investigators, and crime junkies who look at all this and see things differently than the average eye. They will come up with theories, they eill be debunked, and everything covered up. We will never know the truth, but unless we discuss it, we will never st least have some sort of ideas of what happened. Throwing math to shut people up doesn’t help. Let people discuss what they think is happening. It isn’t hurting you is it?
Yeah I suspected you weren’t willing to own that statement. Like I said probably best that you disengage if your asteroid comment is any measure of one of your thoroughly researched and reasoned conclusions.
Stick to trying to convincing your truther mates. They are probably stupid enough to fall for your arguments.
intrigued not intreaged
Yes my mistake.
Thanks.
The internet Grammar police!!
Probably best that you disengage if your asteroid comment is any measure of one of your thoroughly researched and reasoned conclusions.
I have a feeling you’re an FBI agent. 58 were killed at the concert and 489 wounded. how does your maths add up? You’re also not counting the extra family members that were killed and other people dying from natural causes, are you sure you’re considering everyone from that months obiturary or just the people presented in this article??
The asteroid thing has to do with NASA and their surveys (http://www.nss.org/resources/library/planetarydefense/planetarydefense.html)
Coincidence is the first step to conspiracy. I’m not going to agree or deny anything. I will however comment that the truth is always clear and precise and rarely leaves room for questions.
Well, others feel theyre questioning events is warented. It’s difference of opinion. It’s ok. Everyone has the right to think and feel the way we want.
I have said for some time it was a set up to take guns away from citizens and Democraps/;liberals Soros are behind many of these mass shootings. FBI has proven lately that some are crooked as Hillary and lie to cover up truth, look at Comey
Carol, I agree with you
Bollocks – they knew too much – they did the same on 911 AND other manufactured fear events. Lets be clear – the Psychopaths are arming cells to take down America and they have been at it a very long time! Unlearn people – try this link – expand search to All: http://www.internallydisplacedpeople.org/joomla30/index.php/unlearn
How do you know. You spout numbers like your some crime anylist. Truth is, you don’t know either. You say coincidences….others are saying too much coincidence. YOU just don’t know, none of us….that’s what is fishy.
Crime analyst? That is very generous of you. No I am just someone with access to the internet and high school level maths.
All of those stats are available on the CDC website who did all of the hard work for me and the rest was some maths I learnt over a decade ago and some basic logic and deduction.
Do I know definitely that there is no grand conspiracy. No but for extraordinary claims you need extraordinary evidence and what has been presented in this article does not even constitute ordinary evidence.
you “learnt”, huh? lol
You learnt huh?
Give it up TangoFeroz. You can’t win a debate with the tin foil hat crowd. Your numbers are solid. Especially when the author is mistaken about Chad Nishimura being dead, and only lists seven, not eight people. Of course he has the photo of the shooter Stephen Paddock up there, implying he was a witness instead of a deranged nutjob. Take away Chad Nishimura and Paddock, that leaves six. Take away the lawyer, who was not a witness, he just represented Aldean and the festival. That leaves 5, that were actually there and have died since. Big deal, statistically speaking.
If top people at MGM (maybe), police officers, or FBI agents involved in the investigation start being knocked off then that would be evidence of a conspiracy.
But I’m having so much fun! 😉
I mean the numbers of deaths are actually less than would be likely by natural attrition. I don’t know what an asteroid has to do with that.
You are assuming these 8 were the only concert goers that have died.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll tell you where your logic is flawed…. regardless of the rest of this discussion. Using America’s death rate as a means of determining how many people attending a concert would die in a month is very wrong. You would actually need to determine where the concert-goers who died are from, and then apply the death rates for their locations to the math. Then, you’d have to determine how many more people in their regions also died during the same time period and determine if the death rate was somehow anomalous. Even then, your argument would have flaws because death rates aren’t applicable in small windows. They are taken across longer windows, and are thus an average.
The simple fact of the matter is that a car veering off the road, blocks from leaving home and exploding into flames that take an hour to extinguish is SUPER rare.
Two of these people died from seizures in their sleep, which would normally NOT be rare, except that they happen to share the connection of dealing with the FBI case at hand whether through concert attendance or as a lawyer for the artist, thus making it too SUPER rare.
Chad Nishimura was not killed in front of a church, Hector Lemus was.
John Beilman has no credible link to Vegas that I have seen, but who knows.
Danny Contreras is not dead – – – but another Danny Contreras from Vegas, who looks nothing like the guy above, did in fact die on October 23.
Lots of fake news here. But definitely some weirdness too. This is why these things gain traction – just enough weirdness, coupled with a few lies/mistakes = fake news.
You make very fair points and I find it hard to argue against them.
I would ask you to look at my reply to John Adderley.
I think that should address your concerns.
I apologize for my late reply.
In these forums, I have strayed into hostile territory and I’m fighting a bit of a rearguard action.
yes 22,000 stupid people were at that event worshipping the fake god bacchus…. and now some of them are dead because of it. yes very true subsequently died because of their foolish action in attending that event.
Get the hell off of here. What, you don’t like country music? Guess you’d rather them listen to rap crap?? Has Nothing to do with worshipping any God. Gees
Are you for real? It was a country concert that many people enjoy going out to have some fun! The fake God bacchus? No matter what event no one deserves to die just for going out to have a good time! You’re a very dark heartless soul and it’s people like you that are the problem.
yes,, mainly being the fact that it appears FOUL play was the cause of each person’s death
What kind of death a death would you consider natural?
If you think that these deaths stink of foul play then I am curious as what deaths you would consider not stinking of foul play?
I’ll be the official adjudicator here. TangoFeroz wins. General Apathy – you may have had a chance if you actually did leave the debate when you stated you would, but you came back, and still failed to give a sound response to TF’s basic mathematical premise. So, the result is clear – TangoFeroz is the winner.
Shhhhhhhhhh,don’t say anything
Would be great if someone could put together a list of the “still living” who started new Twitter accounts sometimes close to the event.
8 dead and not even of any consequence. you can see in their eyes they are all prisoners of satan. the poor things…their lives accounted for nothing just another 8 lost souls… how sad…… and their families have got no idea what is really going on in this world. they are their own worst enemies because of their lazy ignorance. if only they had listened to people who have crossed their paths in their lives and woken from their ignorant slumber… . sad sad too bad .. make a choice today people.. Choose Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and go to heaven or you inadvertently choose satan and go to hell.. its up to you.
Going to a concert is not choosing satan. Good grief.
Let’s be honest ,there’s ,no country on earth ,were you can trust ,your government There’s all ways dirty tricks .And these type of attacks are far to common .And we don’t know if it’s a terror group or a deranged gun man.but I would say all ,those killed here have the same views ,some thing else happened..
Is this something that the US President could launch an inquiry into?
… they knew too much – they did the same on 911 AND other manufactured fear – Terrorist Factory events: https://www.amazon.com/Terror-Factory-Inside-Manufactured-Terrorism/dp/1935439618 . Lets be clear – the Psychopaths are arming cells to take down America and they have been at it a very long time! This was likely a gun deal that went south and then turned in some kind of cluster %^&* …. Unlearn people – EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT EVERYTHING IS A LIE…. try this link – expand search to All: http://www.internallydisplacedpeople.org/joomla30/index.php/unlearn
The writer needs to do some more research. Not all these people were involved or witnesses to the Vegas massacre. Some are people with the same name, but not related to the shootings and the missing guy has just recently come out to say he wanted his privacy. He also did not say that the shooter had no bags. A big problem with the internet is that so many of you people believe the first thing you read as truth. Ironically, you are the biggest believers in conspiracies, when in fact you are helping spread the lies.
How do you know the names aren’t related to the shootings?
How do you know they are? lol
I never said I did…
Don’t be obtuse. Your question implies it.
What ? What did you call him ?
lmao!
You are wrong the valet is dead,shot in a “robbery”.
every shooting in America in the last 4 years have been by AR-15s come on man there’s no way that’s a coincidence to believe everybody has been using an AR-15 it’s just the government’s way of getting stricter gun bans
There’s just too many holes in the government story brother I can’t believe that things happen the way they did I really feel like the government is trying to cover this up in some type of way and will never know I’m not a conspiracy theorist but the one thing I do see is that there are a lot of crimes happening in the US with AR-15s and they are actively trying to make gun bans and stricter gun rights so could I see the government doing this for propaganda and their own gain yes it’s it’s a hell of a coincidence that all these shootings in America are with AR-15s even this newest one of the church after every one of these news conference is Hillary Clinton makes a speech on how we need tougher gun rights is that a coincidence no two windows were broken out it’s hard to believe that when there was just one shooter we will never honestly no because the government will never release this this will die a secret and that’s why we haven’t heard anything about it since everybody in America knows what’s truly going on and coming from a former Marine that I am the government does things all the time that Americans do not know and would never understand. our government will do anything to protect their own agenda at any cost this is just another way for the government to make money on stricter gun rights gun bans.
With all the race Wars going on inside of America this would be the time to try to take guns away from people because it is a matter of time before we have a segregation issue again it’s already happening they’re trying to get these guns off the streets but in reality they don’t want us to be able to protect ourself in case of the Civil War
excuses and your saying so doesn’t make it false either.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2017/10/06/john-beilman-nicole-murder-suicide-fbi-search-fairport-rett-syndrome/738874001/
He didnt say he had “no bags”. But not as many as they are saying. The man who was the supposed “Las Vegas Shooter” was just a patsy to blame the killings on. This is not the first incident in which people close to a situation in some form have been found dead. This is entirely credible. I googled each person name above and all are dead and pictures of the people mentioned in this article. I guess you need to do a bit more research….
If you read the article from the link you shared, it specifically says that this person is NOT AT ALL related to the Las Vegas shootings. It was in BOLD FACE FONT as an Editor’s Note. I do my research and I do not get suckered in by every conspiracy theory out there. I also saw the interview with the valet that was supposedly dead, when in fact, he was in Hawaii and trying to get some privacy.
A lot of conspiracy theorists need to get a life beyond the Internet Headlines. I am not saying that conspiracies do not exist, but it doesn’t take much looking to find that these people are not all survivors of the LV Shootings and there are many better ways to push gun control than to use a stunt like this. Use logic.
Now, don’t get me started on the JFK assassination.
Seriously? You think this is published to promote gun control? Why do you think the Founding Fathers gave us the right to “KEEP & BEAR Arms”. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” We not have the right but it will NOT be infringed when it comes to forming a militia. Our rights to “Keep arms; meaning of keep ” to retain in one’s possession or power, to watch over and defend, to have or maintain in an established position or relationship”.; Bear arms: meaning of bear “to carry or possess arms, to be equipped”. The “people” are not the problem with gun control. Those who own firearms and license them are responsible citizens. The problem is the govt. They do not prosecute the criminals who obtain weapons illegally or those who commit crimes. We don not have a gun-wielding public running around the streets killing people. The mass shootings have been committed by extremely “disturbed” individuals or those who steal the weapons. There are shootings deaths every day. Chicago is the worst. They have gun control but yet they have some of the worst gun crime in the country. Its not the law abiding citizen with the weapon. Under this theory will we also ban vehicles because they are used in mass murders? Guns, planes, trains, knives …. ? In prior decades in the US, when you committed a crime, there was an appropriate consequence for committing crime. If you killed someone, you were put to death. Therefore, the masses were deterred from murder because they didn’t want to die if they got caught. However, there were no gun laws. How do you expect to defend yourself against the over 4 million Sharia law believing Islamic Extremist? When you and family and/or friends are at the mall or a restaurant, how will you defend yourself and your family. People dont want to think about it but it is a realistic possibility. Sharia = Islamic Extremism. There are over 4 million Muslims in this country who believe in Sharia law. Now, it only took 20 men to kill 3000 on 9/11. Think about how a well orchestrated attack all over the US could look like. If you were to assume that 1/2 that number were men and most likely the perpetrators, the potential death toll could be 40 million people. Muslims have been working for years to the point at which they will take over not only our country but the world. ISIS is only a small snapshot at what will happen if they are allowed to commit crimes. They still continue today. They have wiped out over 60 % of the Christian population in Iraq & Syria. ISIS is a very small group in comparison to the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Bros. is the umbrella for ALL Islamic factions. We have members of the Muslim Bros all throughout our govt, neighborhoods, hospitals, public transportation, schools etc. It can and will be done if they are not stopped. How do you plan to do that if you and the rest of Americans are restricted on their ownership of guns. Furthermore, this is the plan of the globalist movement to disarm the public. Before you say anything. take some time and look at the UN website. Its all there, in black and white. No conspiracy theory. You can get it right from the horses mouth. Of course Obama signed (his emissary John Kerry) signed the Paris Agreement which in essence turns over control of individual nations to the UN. Dont believe me, look at their website. It’s all there. This is why Trump pulled us out. Now, I have done extensive research on Hitler and the Nazi Regime. Their mission was to control the populace. It wasn’t just the Jews, Gypsies, Communists, Christians, handicapped, disabled who were affected. The German people were as well. They were scared and manipulated into control. Gun control was the last issue dealt with. Now there is some conflicting information that some gun ownership was legal (so someone could hunt). However, Hitler was about control. He wasnt just a mass murderer. He had to keep the German people in check so they would do what he wanted and they could not rise up against him. It took an outside force, the USA to free this enslaved country. Why was it enslaved? Propaganda and gun control. Here is an excerpt from Kitty Werthmann who was in Austria when Hitler took over, ““No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up. Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_front_lines_of_the_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wants-to-warn-america.html#IX00o14urAhy7o1p.99
Now much has been said of late that the Holocaust didnt really happen or it didnt happen the way some people say it did. I have done extensive research including documentaries which include Hitler actually using his own mouth to say words that people doubt today”. This is real; not a conspiracy. I went to a hockey game last week. The thought did cross my mind, “what if there is an attack? I have no way to defend myself”. This is not a conspiracy. This is real life today. Without legislation on PROSECUTION we can not lose our right to own and carry a firearm.
This thing stinks to high heaven. Why is the liberal press avoiding this story?
If there were multiple gunmen chasing and shooting people in such a big crowd I find it very strange that only 56 were killed.
True, but remember how many hundreds were shot. We don’t know what kind of guns were supposedly used in crowds, I would assume smaller “hideable” guns. Just saying…
YOU should be careful when writing about a topic, and making it personal by using the word YOU people , examples, …… YOU read, YOU are YOU people,YOU lie,, ect …..YOU are accusing the general mass of being stupid, and gullible. YOU are creating an environment of defensiveness. You are insulting people YOU don’t even know. So people like YOU should be careful of YOUR words. Because YOU don’t know what kind of shit storm YOU could be stirring up. YOU never know who YOU could be offending, and to say it is simply bad form. YOU need to stop pointing fingers, and YOU need to express YOUR opinions w/out speaking in such a manner that put YOURSELF above others. Disgusting attitude.
This site smells like a Russian troll bot farm or right-wing nutjob site spewing bullshit. Morons are sparing it all other Facebook. Pathetic.
Such bull shit, the 2nd person on this list Daniel Contreras is my cousin who was murdered. He was not even at the 91 festival, the writer is basically using my cousins murder for entertainment purposes. Thats fucking bullshit
I am so sorry about your cousin. Murder is never easy to deal with. Forgive me asking, so is this where people are saying mistaken identity? Not the same person? Or just confusion? They say someone with his name had tweeted he was there blah blah… I only know what I read… So I ask you for clarification since you say he is family. Different person? Wrong person/name? And again, please accept my condolences either way, no one should have to go through this. I don’t think anyone (or most) are trying to disrepct your family member here, just want answers. Prayers to your family.
Brain-dead conspiracy theorists spewing absolute nonsense.
Among the seven named, two died in an apparent car accident. One appears to have been misidentified by conspiracy theorists. A third is, in fact, not dead, while another had serious medical complications. In another instance, the deceased had no link whatsoever to the mass shooting, while the final “key witness” named, in display of sheer laziness by Neon Nettle, is Paddock, the shooter.
Baxter, please do a better job of citing your sources in your articles. I knew Orville and I find it hard to believe he died of natural causes but you don’t show any of your research in your writing, which belies it’s objectivity. Orville was a good man and did the right thing for his clients.
Baxter DIDN’T write this article. Baxter is a FRAUD and so is this fake “News” website! Below is the original article in which Baxter “THE FRAUD” took it upon himself to copy and paste as his own. Just look at the date it came out and compare it to his.
7 Las Vegas Shooting Witnesses Now Dead Within 1 Month of Attack One month on from massacre and seven key eyewitnesses have been killed
By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 2nd November 2017 @ 6.42pm
Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/features/1231-7-las-vegas-shooting-witnesses-now-dead-within-1-month-of-attack
© Neon Nettle
And this isn’t the first time Baster THE FRAUD stole other people’s articles! His bullshit story on the pedophile getting tied to the train tracks has also been DEBUNKED! It was stolen from an article back in 2015 about a suicide in India!
Here’s the original article Baxter stole…
Decapitated By Train – Indian Suicide
In Dibrugarh, India, a man in his late thirties committed suicide following a failed romance. Witnesses claim the man dismounted his bike and stuck his head on the track in the path of an oncoming wheel, knowing the conductor would not be able to stop the slowly moving train in time.
Read more at https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=247_1443645519#M5Gor0lfU04s0kLT.99
I guess its a good thing we are not all retarded and it’s tragic that these morons have to use somebody’s death (s) to spread their bullshit.
the human mind can not fathom what our world is becoming :(…the writer is an interesting anomaly i’ve been studying since sandy hook and the incredible assaults by the public on the victims and survivors…conspiracy theorists. i did little on the motivation, spoke to a few and bestest i could tell their demands are about seeing the actual bullet holes in children, they are considered ghouls….
but how they build their “platforms” is astonishing and how people so easily believe them is in it’s self mind blowing. common sense and a little humanity eats it up…NO DOUBT bullets were flying EVERYWHERE and in crisis it is what a rational person would think…shooters everywhere, people dropping all around them in every direction. those that watch the videos it is clear people did NOT believe it was happening at all, much less raining from the sky…rational tht and hind-site took care of it, but by then the CT bunch were already posting stuff as FACTS, people who couldnt handle the reality ate it up. surviors like the victims of sandy hook hounded and threatened by hysterical people who demanded the truth….that is ahhh crazy personified..
the poor security guy, shy and traumatized beyond words hounded into hiding…we watch yesterday with much grief for the good Samaritan as he cried, traumatized beyond words , clearly trying to shut CT down, what a brave soul to care so much for the victims he gave up his own wish for privacy to protect the victims from what i am sure the police told him would be heartless soles demanding answers, making up stories that will fit a world they can not understand and of course the people who see goblins under their beds, they will settle for nothing less than pic and what they call proof of actual bullet holes in babies…sicko’s….they demand answers from people who do NOT owe them one and really dont have any.
how can any caring human being not see horrible traumatized father not wanting to live in this world any more, not wanting his daughter too :(. I think the relevant question there is how much was this poor man hounded and harassed to insanity and the steps that he took….if so i believe those that did should be hunted and charged!
and yup people walking about in traumatized fog, hounded by actual people demanding answers they dont have, met accidents…ya think…geesh
one thing is for sure…those that demand and hound the families of those killed in texas are going to face real justice….these wack jobs cant hide behind their computers and spout their evil without being identified and held accountable, it clearly and without question interfered with the investigation of vegas, the victims terrorized further and went into hiding…dont blame them
If you don’t believe in the “deep state”, perhaps you should look more deeply into it…
Some people would discredit that this is stupid and it never happened but as i was taught in philosophy 101, anything is possible and never shoot down something because it does not sound logically correct or doesn’t make sense. Its a possibility that a person can throw a penny 50 feet and land into small pot. Anything is possible even if it does not make sense to a worlds most known genius
“Shoot down” – probably not the best metaphor in this instance
You know when you claim there are 8 and 3 have been either confirmed alive or no connection to the Vegas Shooting, you’re not doing well with your case.
I don’t believe anything the government tells the public or most of anything I read on one article or media site. When I heard about the shooting, I was shocked and saddened by this because people died, but I wouldn’t put it passed the government to cover things up. They been doing it for years. Not just the US Government but all governments partake in false flags. You ask why? Why would they do that? Money, more power and ultimate control. The government is like the evil character “IT” and feeds off our fears and the more we are afraid, the more power we give it.
if you do not know how to identify a false flag or what one even is, I suggest this website. https://www.gaia.com/lp/content/do-you-know-how-to-identify-a-false-flag-event/ and if you would like to know the ever growing list of false flags, visit this site. https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ever-growing-list-of-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5578473
This is all fake news people. They have not cited a single source on any of this information. Just start googling a few names and you will quickly learn that this is a all click bate rubbish, or maybe Russian made. Either way totally bogus website don’t believe a single word these hacks say.
Considering the circumstances under the Obama administration, we need to be asking where are all the millions upon millions of hollow point bullets that were stockpiled by every govt agency over the last 8 years? What kind and how many guns and assault rifles were distributed in the “Fast and Furious” scandal? I’m willing to bet that Obama and Hillary had a ton of them dropped off in Mexico and the majority of the supposed Mexican illegals were actually jihadis… Guns, bullets, ready to bus them all across the country, 11 million “undocumented” illegal immigrants? Muslims coming into Mexico through Honduras, Obama’s ready made army. Of course the Saudis had a big “wooha” at Mandalay Bay right before the massacre happened and are believed to be a part of it… It’s the Globalist at work. Plain as day. Yep.
I have never ever believed in conspiracy theories but I do have questions here.
Add one more: Nov. 17, 2017 — Roy McClellan, 52, Pahrump, hit-and-run.
almost two years passing and no comments on this travesty? how odd, ( no longer), given the abundance of evidence explicitly supporting this above piece and others
now, Disqus will scrub everything deemed contrary, as announced, to its alignment with MSM propaganda agenda
sad, shortsighted and stupid debasement of once promising ideals of American freedom to engage essential truth in all matters requisite to growth of human consciousness and our moral state of being
the stuff of great evil unfolding right in from of us and we’re helpless to defend against it through mass subversion. tragedy.
This is why President Trump backed off gun control/ban talk. Americans absolutely know about this and responded with a promise to primary him and all GoP who betrayed the oath of office.
We see what is happening. We haven’t moved because there is still a chance this can be resolved ….civilly.
I’ll add my two cents, anticipating a reply may call you back to your 3-year-old post and, if you’ve forgotten it, you’ll see just how right you were! “Great evil,” indeed….
I watched the TV coverage of the incident as it happened. Later that evening, after the shooting stopped and the talking heads began to repeat themselves, I started perusing the internet. We had been told that the “shooter had committed suicide” as the officers broke into the suite of rooms he had. I believe it was the next evening, still looking for more information about the shooting, that I came upon what appeared to be a crime scene photo of the dead “shooter.” That’s when I became suspicious of the official narrative. The photographer of Paddock must have stood at his feet and zoomed the picture in to show him from the waist up, lying on his back with a wide, thick halo of dark red, drying blood around his head and in the pool of blood above his head lay a spent rifle shell that appeared to be pristine of any blood other than the bottom of it that was sunk into the blood pool. It was a brass bullet so clean it gleamed. I thought, how could that bullet possibly have fallen into the pool of blood around his head if he was the only shooter? It could not have been the bullet he fired into his own head, either. My impression was, he didn’t shoot himself; someone shot him.
I was at the concert and SWEAR my friend saw multiple men with military grade weapons charging the crowd from the rear.
We know now it was a FBI assasination attempt on MBS who was on the the top floor. Tipped off by Trump the FBI had to create a FF gone bad. Later Trump was welcomed and given the Sword dance.
Useful idiot™
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